Recently, we got the chance to sit down with Hollywood director Lloyd Kaufman during the Victor Vran DLC Preview Event. Lloyd lent his voice and appearance to the bartender character in the new expansion Motörhead Through the Ages, and we chatted about how his relationship with Motörhead started, his past career and inspirations, and whether games can be considered art or not. Read it all up below!
How did your close relationship with Motörhead began?
I was in the American film market, where Troma takes kind of a setup like this, and I come into the office and there's Lemmy sitting there, being Lemmy. You know, very rude, very... you know, being Lemmy. But he loved Troma, and he has the most important, he has more lines than anybody on Tromeo and Juliet, he plays the narrator. And as you know, Lemmy doesn't speak very clearly. Later on, we used subtitles; in fact, my latest movie, which is Return to Nuke ’Em High aka Volume 2, we gave him subtitles. He plays the President of the United States, and we dedicated this new movie to Lemmy.
And he would be a better president than the one they have right now?
He would be a better president, no question. He would be better than any of the presidents, to be honest. I would have Lemmy; I think he would be the best president ever, in terms of my life. I don't think in my lifetime, we haven't really had any great presidents, to be honest. Some of them were decent people, but they weren't very good, and the other ones who were smart were horrible, horrible people.
Speaking of movies, I heard you actually wanted to do Broadway musicals first.
When I was a kid, I was big on Broadway, yeah. You know, in fact, Poultrygeist: Night of the Chicken Dead is a musical. We made a musical.
Yeah, and it’s a brilliant concept. How do you feel about that now? Do you still have any interest in doing musicals?
Yeah! I mean, all of our movies have the songs on screen, pretty much starting with and going back to Squeeze Place!, which was about women's liberation comedy made in 1976, and that had an on-camera song, like a music video in it. So, I love musicals, you bet. We're working on, in fact, Return to Nuke ’Em High, Volume 1 and 2, have a live music video.
If Mel Brooks managed to go from movies to musical, maybe you can do it too.
Well, The Toxic Avenger has been made into a musical, did you know that?
No, I didn't!
Yes! It played here. In fact, David Bryan of Bon Jovi, made the music. He wrote the music, and Joe DePietro wrote the play. And it won all the awards in New York at “Play of the Year”, and it played here in a... (to PR folks) Where did the Toxie musical play?
Southwark Playhouse! And its nominated now for “Best Off-West End Musical”. And David Bryan of Bon Jovi wrote the songs. They’re great, terrific. So yeah, it's a lot of fun. Its touring the United States now, after running a year on New York.
And I bet it's better than U2 in Spider-Man.
Uh, yes. Yes! I think so. Honestly, it's clever, it's smarter, it's more intelligent, yeah.
And how do you feel about being immortalised in a game instead of just movies?
I'm honoured. I came all the way from New York... in fact, I came all the way from San Francisco. I was giving a symposium on net neutrality on the internet - which is very important - and it’s going away with Mr Trump, they want to get rid of it… I hear. So, you know, we must fight for net neutrality. But I’m friends, of course, with Lemmy and Achim Heidelauf, who has been a friend of mine also for 25 years. I'm here to support this great videogame, which is really the true spirit of Motörhead, and the true... it is Motörhead, Victor Vran.
You know, so many things of this nature, they go through the motions, you know, the movie star will put his name on it, or her name on it, but, you know, it's nothing to do with them, it’s just using the name. You know, George Clooney sells whiskey. Why is that… what he's got to do with whiskey? I know about whiskey, I'm a drunk! But George Clooney is not one, he doesn't know about whiskey. But Victor Vran knows Lemmyhead.
In fact, Achim was 16 years old when he met Lemmy for the first time, and you know, it's from his heart. It's from the heart of these guys. Gabriel, Bisser, and Lemmy, where, you know, it's a team with Achim and they love... it's out of love. And I'm here out of love, because I'm not being paid to come. You know, I haven't slept in 48 hours. Luckily, I take a lot of cat tranquilizers, it’s very good. Cat tranquilizers, if you're interested, takes you where you wanna go, and they don't stop you in the airplanes, either. “What is this?”, "Oh, it’s cat tranquilizer. My cat is very upset. I'm seeing him in London.”
(laughs) Poor cat. One last question...
(smiles) Do you consider games works of art just like movies are?
Games are work of art, you bet. You bet! Most of them are not... but again, I don't know about games! I've got 71 fucking years old, I don’t know how to... I really know very little about games. But clearly, this game is beautiful. In fact, the Toxic Avenger, I just saw him playing it, and the images are magnificent, and the music that goes with it, the Motörhead music, and the effects, and my beautiful voice is on it. I mean, when I hear that voice, I'm like... in fact, I'm getting a little erect right at this very minute (laughs), being a narcissist. So, this is a work of art, you bet. You bet!
You know, movies, I'm old enough to remember my mother was a theatre person - as you mentioned, I loved musicals - but she looked down on movies. You know, movies were sort of second class to who would be your grandparents or great grandparents, and now videogames are kinda looked upon a little bit, you know, not as art; but its major art. You bet. It’s unbelievable art. It’s incredible. And I have no idea how they do it. It’s incredible.
By the way, also La La Land, right? the opening song in La La Land, it’s like a videogame, and you wonder "How did they do that? How the fuck did they do it?" it’s brilliant. It’s great.
It is a wonderful mix of technology and music.
Amazing. It’s amazing. But, I'm sure Damien Chazelle, he I'm sure is a videogame player. He's gotta be, because the way the songs are put up on screen for La La Land is clearly inspired by Victor Vran.
Thank you for your time, Lloyd.
Thank you, Marcello!
Victor Vran: Motörhead Through the Ages is out soon on Steam, Xbox One and Playstation 4.